Posts by Pete Zahut

82

Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

by The Searcher in

according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

Pete Zahut

Just some thoughts on this:

I read on this site that the late Daniel Sydlik admitted in a moment of frustration regarding some of the old dates and beliefs that he'd like to throw the whole religion out and start all over. Maybe this is the only way to finally rip the bandage off despite the short term pain it would cause.
They could change their name, just like they did way back when they were Russelites and International Bible Students and eventually people will forget they ever existed, the same way most young JW's today know nothing about (or even care) about1975, Malawi or Beth Sarim etc.
They could stop printing the Watchtower altogether and keep the more recent issues around for refrences or simply change the magazines name just like they did when it used to be Zions Herald or Golden Age.
They're called Jehovah's Witnesses now even though their website is called JW.org. so they could easily change their name and still keep the website name the same as it is and it wouldn't make that much of a difference.
This name change does seem to explain why they are making dire warnings about trusting the GB and why they are leaving their well established "Watchtower" presence in New York City and moving to a remote location with a giant new complex. It would be easier for them to fade out the old and start over somewhere new with a new name and corporation, where they are less known. It also would explain why they are purging themselves of Bethelites . It might make it easier to start with a whole new crew instead of dealing with the ones who are resentful of the changes.
Changing the name to Worshipers of Jehovah would eliminate that annoying tendency people have of leaving the plural off of the current name by calling them Jehovah Witness . They'll likely end up being referred to as the Jehovah Worshipers which sounds even weirder. "Shut the curtains Ethel...here comes the Jehovah Worshipers"

82

Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

by The Searcher in

according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

Pete Zahut

German-speakers can reveal the other changes presented.

Jehovah's Witnesses there will be no more Everything will change Gatto 9 July 2015 The Kingdom Ministry of September 2015 is published , I realized that the box " Outstanding aspects of sermon service " has disappeared . So the growth data is now actually not exactly comforting ? They had already removed the monthly report with all exact dates and had replaced it with a unverifiable comment , now they have it completely removed - hm .

I correct myself . In Kingdom Ministry in English of the box , but there is , in the Italian language is not - funny. Berto July 13, 2015 Good Morning. I know most of my life a brother , very spiritually-minded , an anointed missionary , he personally knows some of the Governing Body , ie one who could possibly these include time itself . He is not in Italy . Recently, he has joyfully laughing something told me that I did not know whether he was joking or whether I should sit down and cry. He said , Look At JW.org

the books, the magazines on, everything we have published in the past few years and for whom we have published it. Ultimately, we only produce material for families. For the WTG, the preacher of the 20th century, you automatically deactivate the reputation of the tutors (according to him the future name of the preacher with the trolley) of JW.org. One no longer preach the Kingdom, helping the families. The end, when it will come, it will come halt. Immediately after the completion of Warwick, we will change the name (so he said) in organizing the worshipers of Jehovah (Yahweh Worshipers Organisation, abbreviated JW.org ). All think it's just the name of the site. They did not get it (so he thought), why they publish this on so exaggerated way: it is our new name (as he thinks). The Watchtower will be replaced in his opinion gradually through the Christian congregation of Jehovah's worshipers (Christian Congregation of Jehovah Worshipers). The Watchtower Library will be replaced by the JW-Library (which will not contain any publication before 2000) and there will be prompted to destroy all copies (that seems already obvious). It is only a magazine style Young People Ask publish - as he said.

The public lectures will be replaced by means of observations live from JW Broadcasting in the halls ( which is quasi already handled ) . In his opinion, this whole move of the headquarters only has the purpose to create a distance to what the Jehovah's Witnesses , to raise up the organization of the worshipers of Jehovah out of the ashes and forgetting 1914 generation . So to speak, " the not we have said , these were the Jehovah's Witnesses . We are something else entirely. " All these appointments , changes and so prepare the ground just before the big announcement . He wants to escape , has said that he does not participate since . If he wanted to take me in his arms ? I do not know why I wanted to tell you that, but I had to tell it to anyone . It's too much , to keep it for me .

166

Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

Pete Zahut

Now that this idea has been posted, I'm guessing those monitoring this site from HQ will issue a stern warning from the platform telling everyone not to be accessing unknown hotspots.

The other part of this is that apparently this means people are surfing the internet during the assembly, so there'll be a warning about that too.

18

Living forever

by jws in

jw
friends

someone on facebook posted john 3:16 where it says people will live forever.. not that i believe it, but i just cannot imagine this.

this, to me, would be the true hell.. if i'm very lucky, i will live to be 100. at nearly half that, already some parts of life no longer hold much interest to me.

even tv shows.

Pete Zahut

Every morning I let my dog out into the back yard and although he recognizes where he is, you'd swear by his excitement that he'd never seen the place before. Each day he seems as if it's a brand new world to him.

To live forever and be happy about it ones sense of the passage of time would have to be altered and ones memory would in some ways have to fail them so that things seemed new again.

Maybe when they talk about Adam and Eve having lost their innocence and their eyes being opened, this is what is what they mean. Maybe (if they truly ever existed) humans were supposed to be more innocent (like my dog) and their concept of time was meant to be different. Maybe our current concept of time and tendency to become bored is part of the "imperfection" we inherited. Maybe our concept of time and the passage of time is all fouled up.

At any rate, it's hard for me to imagine that all those years ago when my parents randomly conceived me that I was intended to live for all eternity just because the sperm that swam the strongest at that moment, was the one that made me instead of one of the other thousand that could have been someone else. If they'd have gone to bed 10 minutes sooner or 10 minutes later I wouldn't even be here.

Maybe wanting to live forever is part of the human tendency to be greedy or to be self absorbed. We always want more, even when sometimes more would be the worst thing ever.

17

Just curious

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

i remember that every time when my father and i came home from the meeting, my mother (who stayed at home for my disabled brother) asked us "who was attending and who wasn't attending".. and then, we took some time to drink coffee and went through the list who was there and who wasn't.

there after there was an opinion made why someone was absent and what this meant in relation with his strength of believe.. just curious, do you recognize this?

gorby.

Pete Zahut

Who was there at the meetings and what they had to say afterward was always more relevant and newsworthy than the meetings themselves.

The only time the meeting program was discussed was when there was disfellowshipment announced or there was a rumor of an exciting announcement that was forthcoming from the society which could possibly be about the beginning of the tribulation.

30

Who would you like to hear of leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses ?

by wozza in

jw
friends

i'll start off with this one:.

some years ago when i was formulating my exit, i employed for some time an ms brother from another congregation.. i'd had a couple of young "worldly" lads work for me but they proved unreliable as they used drugs or alchohol and consequently would'nt arrive at work and such like.. so when i was was contacted by this brother and spoke to him and heard he'd worked at the australian bethel for some time on construction and wanted an opportunity to learn the trade of bricklaying ,i thought ,"great someone to finally trust and be reliable".

he was in his 40's at the time and he worked like a trojan ,was honest ,really likeable and interesting ,could play the classical guitar beautifully ,had a beautiful family.

Pete Zahut

Besides seeing the guy in charge of overseeing the Watchtower finances leaving under mysterious circumstances, I'd like to see Caleb and Sophia do a video that chronicled their exit from the cult

50

OMG JW Sea Org

by sherrie11 in

i found this picture and i just can't believe it?

.

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/130152768378/jw-booth-at-a-book-fair-in-brazil-photo-shared-by#.

Pete Zahut

Ladies and Gentlemen...

In the unlikely event of a water landing

our literature should not be used as a floatation device.

112

Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?

by John Aquila in

how many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.

how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.

how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.

Pete Zahut

A lifelong JW friend who was like a sister to me, sent me an "interesting" email about Beth Sarim. She thought it was wonderful to see the old photos and so interesting to see how much brighter the light has gotten and she shared it with all her JW email contacts.

I on the other hand was shocked that as a life long JW, a former Bethelite and as someonene who tragically lost a loved one over the blood transfusion issue, couldn't believe that I had never heard of this Beth Sarim nonsense before and wondered what else I didn't know about this religion and it's crazy founders.

A google search ensued and all the missing pieces about the religion that I had wondered about but had dismissed, began to fall into place. The rest is history.

I often wondered if anyone else who received that email from my friend, had the same reaction as I did. When that friend later discovered that my wife and I were no longer Witnesses, (5 years after our last meeting) she said she loved us dearly but if we were leaving the organization, she would no longer be able to remain in contact with us. She asked me what happened to make us want to leave the truth. I told her that her email about Beth Sarim gave me the go ahead to do a google search to find out more and to verify it's accuracy and that's when the JW house of cards came crashing in.

Let me tell you...she was horrified but I assured her that we were the same moral and decent people and this would have happened eventually anyway. She said that out of loyalty to Jehovah, she would have to cut off contact with us. I told her that loyalty to Jehovah and loyalty to the Watchtower organization were two different things but she didn't see it that way. We made several attempts to visit her and her husband after that but phone calls and emails weren't returned.

About 9 months ago she was killed in a freak accident and we attended her Memorial which ironically was not too far from Beth Sarim. (we visited the Beth Sarim site while we were there) It was our first time in a Kingdom Hall since Memorial of 2008 and it was strange and bittersweet to hear the old JW speak again.I sniffled and sobbed through the whole thing especially when one of the old kingdoms song was played at the end. It was such a terrible loss and under the circumstances never to have been able to say goodbye.

Her family was delighted to see us and we were invited to the dinner after her memorial and they were truly glad that we came. Other than the family, we didn't know anyone else in attendance at the memorial. Everyone assumed we were JW's and treated us as such. It was heartbreaking that she wasn't there with us like it used to be and such a shame that we never got to speak to our dear friend in the last few years of her life because of her loyalty to a man made organization.

28

Is the end of Watchtowers hated No Blood doctrine in sight?

by nicolaou in

i won't pretend to know things that i don't but just look at the incredible rate of change we've witnessed recently.

it seems that since candace conti and the australian royal commission the watchtower are scrabbling around to shore up their finances in the face of unprecedented legal action against them.. abuse settlement claims are one thing but what happens when children die as a result of your religious teachings?!

you can bet wt legal are arguing for a complete rewrite of policy to protect the organisation from litigation.. do you think their religious privilege will protect them forever?

Pete Zahut

I could see them holding fast to the old party line with all the old doctrines but making some kind of announcement to the effect that this wicked worldly system of things has gotten so corrupt and is ready to find a way to prevent the preaching activity to continue, which is our main purpose. In view of this, our spiritual strategy is for the Elders to contain their spiritual guidance and authority to within the walls of the Kingdom Hall and no longer be regulating the activities of individuals rather, letting each one stand before Jehovah on his own merit. From now on the Elders will be focusing 100% on organizing the preaching activity and the meeting programs.

32

Impressions of the Governing Body; who's smart, who ain't?

by Room 215 in

jw
friends

based on what we've seen, it seems to me that of the seven, splane and jackson are the smartest; herd, lett and morris the least intelligent; and sanderson and losch somewhere in the middle.

.

what's your impression?.

Pete Zahut

I don't know who's smart or who isn't but I do know that they've been drinkin' their own Koolaid so long that they seem to have lost touch with reality. This is the result of having surrounded themselves for decades with yes men and women who are afraid to give their leaders a reality check. From all the changes we've seen lately I get the sense that they've realized this themselves (perhaps too late) and have hired some outside agency to make them over or they are making some last ditch effort to put a new(ish) spin on the same old stuff and are still listening to their own narcissistic reasonings and are failing to realize that no matter what they do, people are seeing through the whole set up.